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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 12:47:52 GMT
Erhm. I know. But, as stated many times previously, from many points of view, the Colonies have some of the most powerful Armed Forces in this part of the Universe, as for why the Metatons wouldn't necessarily be a much threatening problem. A Metaton Attack would force the Zentraloberkommando to dispatch more battlegroups, and it is not going to be an easy fight, but at least in conventional means, it would be impossible for the Metatons to truly defeat the Colonies. That's why I focused on something more unconventional, their cybernetic ability.
As for the Nalthar, it would depend on what exactly you want to mean by "moving ships". If it's simply pushing them forward and maneouvering them, that wouldn't be a big problem. But if by that, you mean controlling them into a battle ready state, then , it would be difficult to control then telekinetically. And then, even if that's true, I still don't think that the Nalthar would have enough masters or ships to attack the five galaxies at once. The Invaders required pieces from the navies of all the great powers of the last millennia, and even those weren't full on attacks.
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Post by The Governor on Jun 17, 2016 15:33:27 GMT
Erhm. Cyberattacks isnt the only thing they do. They have damaged many civlizations in the wake of their unedlnding war against each other(until Eldari psi-disruptors silenced them for many thousands of years). Along the way, they incorporated much tech, and use it against each other. Thus, the Rakturan Metatons are very well capable of launching a conventional attack, but once the Ingurin detect that the Rakturans are attacking something, they will come in the place and will help fight off the Rakturans. Now, I don't know, but the Nalthar app says that Nalthar masters are cabale of moving ships. They might be able to bring an entire fleet without manning them, but will simply use telekinetics to control them... that might explain that they would be able to attack the five galaxies at once. I dont like this. Not this or the Celestials. My primary issue is the power these beings have. As I said earlier, I will not allow something with the power to derail and unbalance plot lines to come into being. You might say that the Delieggen, a race of covert shape shifters bent on destabilising and destroying other civilisations, is one of these unbalancing races. But I am saving most of their activity for AFTER the war with the Invaders. Thrace wants to end the Invader plotline, and so do I. I dont like the idea of it being drug out any longer than it has to be by ancient races of powerful beings that suddenly ALSO decide to pop out of the shadows. So I'm not going to flat out deny the idea of a Nalthar mass invasion, but I am going to suspend its development until after the Invaders are dealt with. Understand that this does not apply to all races, just the current ones being discussed. And they are not necessarily rejected, their status is just in limbo until the current plot is wrapped up. And just no to the telekinetics for moving a fleet. For one, fine, but the fleets to attack five galaxies at once? Nothing can mobilise the amount of ships it would take to seriously attack all five galaxies at once, I dont care what their psionic ability is. Even the Invaders haven't gotten around to hitting the Mag Clouds or Andromeda. If Acruan, Thrace, or Drak would like to overrule me on this, I'll respect their decision. But unless they do, we should wrap up the content we have already.
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Post by Acruan on Jun 17, 2016 16:00:14 GMT
I'd ask about the range of that telekinesis for a single thing to purely telekinetically control them, or even how a single being can control a single whole fleet alone, when that wasn't clearly shown as their main and only specialty considering it is a race wide ability. And you would still need, hundreds of millions of fleets for it to work even then. I sorely doubt that you would have billions of ships there in Nalthar control. Considering it was purely a race app and never a nation app citing their seemingly boundless resources, as Karsopolis said, this will be on hold until after the Invader's Plot is over. Feel free to send me a PM with a whole plot idea for us to discuss, so it can be fully and properly fleshed out.
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Post by Asriel Dreemurr on Jun 17, 2016 22:18:09 GMT
Uah, if fighting off the 13th order is that difficult, then wjat more is a race of telekinetic shapeshifters and twelve Abyssal orders? Adding the Nalthar right now will make the Abyssal orders difficult to defeat as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 5:05:14 GMT
As mentioned before, but you probably missed it, we aren't going to fight the rest of the Abyssal Orders. This plotline will end only with fighting this specific order, the others aren't going to intervene.
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